sam_hoosier
12-16 01:40 PM
As much as all of us on this board would like to get our GCs, remember that GC is just a means to an end, it is not the end itself. Dont make the GC so important that not getting it starts "depressing" you.
Focus on the positives - the years that you have spent in the US have given you great experiences, some savings (hopefully:)), better perspective on life etc. Wherever you live, you can put these things to good use.
So chill out ! Getting depressed is not going to get you your GC faster.;)
P.S. I voluntarily dumped my 2003 PD to take up a new job & now I have a Dec 2006 PD. I have bought a house (and also sold one). I do not plan to allow GC to dictate my life.....
Focus on the positives - the years that you have spent in the US have given you great experiences, some savings (hopefully:)), better perspective on life etc. Wherever you live, you can put these things to good use.
So chill out ! Getting depressed is not going to get you your GC faster.;)
P.S. I voluntarily dumped my 2003 PD to take up a new job & now I have a Dec 2006 PD. I have bought a house (and also sold one). I do not plan to allow GC to dictate my life.....
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gcgonewild
09-15 05:38 PM
I 've sent pm.. please update the google doc.
glus
05-23 12:01 PM
This is awesome, glus. Thanks again for putting these fax numbers together.
No problem...I think fax can be a strong messages since it is a hard copy and it has greater chances to get read quicker than e-mails.. Please take some time and fax them. Fax takes a minute to send if the line is not busy. Keep trying and fax them.
No problem...I think fax can be a strong messages since it is a hard copy and it has greater chances to get read quicker than e-mails.. Please take some time and fax them. Fax takes a minute to send if the line is not busy. Keep trying and fax them.
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Naveen
07-09 04:05 PM
Added this info to the profile of Mr.Gonzalez in Wikipedia and also to USCIS and DOS.
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alterego
03-08 06:27 PM
Very well written. I can tell you through my observations of living in this society for 35 years:
1) People leaving because of long wait is a losing argument. Available information doesn't back it up. We have had severe retrogression since 2005 (h-1b quota cases have finished in matter of days)
2)USA is destination of choice. 9 million people file through greencard lottery for 50,000 slots and the main populated countries aren't even eligible to file (ie., India, China, Pakistan, Canada, etc.)
3) Call it what it is: Employment base immigration is least impacted. It is the only class of immigrants who are allowed to work/live in USA while they wait for greencard. Just about every other class has to wait outside until their number is called. This is number one impediment to EB grievances.
4) Stating that one is paying taxes, etc., is also losing argument. You are comparing yourself to the people who are here unlawful. Paying taxes isn't some virtue, it is the law.
5) Country quotas is fundamental to US Immigration. Getting rid of it for one class; ie employment base without looking at the whole thing is waste of time (ie., lottery, family base, etc.).
Now I don't want to get people upset but let's look at some things that have happened since 2005:
There was considerable debate on immigration.com of how the country quotas work and spillover of visas. Depending on how you read the law you would keep coming up with different conclusions. One way was to look at it as hard cap of 7% across all 140,000 visas that is 10,000 or so and it didn't matter about eb1,eb2, eb3. Any unused visas from ROW in EB1 would not go to india but rather flow down to eb2 row and then eb3 row. That s unused would go vertical instead of horizontal.
In uscis fiscal year 2004 eb3 went unavailable in summer of 2005. Statistics showed that India went well over their 7% limit.
In USCIS fiscal year 2005 we had severe retrogression for India. Visa bulletin states that spillover will be vertical instead of horizontal. Statistics showed that India only received 10,500 visas
Now, fiscal year 2006 . We have slow movement in visa dates; it appears that they are going vertical with spillover. However, in July 2007 they make it current for everyone and India goes over the 7% limit.
Fiscal year 2007 it appears from visa bulletin that they are going to go horizontal instead of vertical. No statistics yet of how much went to India.
Therefore; department of state has changed policy, interpretation without law change. Talk to many lawyers and they will tell you that spillover is supposed to happen vertical instead of horizontal. indian nationals have been benefitted greatly by department of state changing it on their whim. You don't see many people from ROW on these boards bellyaching about this; or contacting senators, or threatening lawsuits do you?
This is something to think about? As people keep highlighting this issue and if they continually point it out to lawmakers and someone from ROW gets the birght idea to challenge department of state then it will make it worse for India. I don't foresee any change whatsoever in country quota limits; mainly because it is fundamental to immigration and fundamental things don't change very easily.
In defense of the EB2I argument thought UN, I could argue that the Horizontal spillover was right all along and it was EB3ROW that benefited since 2005 at the expense of EB2I + C.
As you rightly point out, there is room for interpretation in the way the law is written, and that is why we keep having this discussion. I remember vehemently having this discussion with you on immigration.com. The bottom line is I am still waiting having been "current" twice since that time, I believe that there are many Eb3ROW folks with PDs later than mine that have sailed through ahead of me! The interpretation view of spillover over the last year is the only thing that gives me any hope near term.
In the mean time, those like me have dealt with a barrage of other processing changes that have also affected EB2I ie Labor Subs., Eb3-EB2 jumpers, the July VB fiasco impact on older 485s etc. Not sure about the exact extent of each, but nonetheless, you feel screwed by the system when your 485 is pending for near 4 yrs.
This is one harrowing experience everyone wants to forget once they get greened. Thanks for sticking around with your valuable insight.
1) People leaving because of long wait is a losing argument. Available information doesn't back it up. We have had severe retrogression since 2005 (h-1b quota cases have finished in matter of days)
2)USA is destination of choice. 9 million people file through greencard lottery for 50,000 slots and the main populated countries aren't even eligible to file (ie., India, China, Pakistan, Canada, etc.)
3) Call it what it is: Employment base immigration is least impacted. It is the only class of immigrants who are allowed to work/live in USA while they wait for greencard. Just about every other class has to wait outside until their number is called. This is number one impediment to EB grievances.
4) Stating that one is paying taxes, etc., is also losing argument. You are comparing yourself to the people who are here unlawful. Paying taxes isn't some virtue, it is the law.
5) Country quotas is fundamental to US Immigration. Getting rid of it for one class; ie employment base without looking at the whole thing is waste of time (ie., lottery, family base, etc.).
Now I don't want to get people upset but let's look at some things that have happened since 2005:
There was considerable debate on immigration.com of how the country quotas work and spillover of visas. Depending on how you read the law you would keep coming up with different conclusions. One way was to look at it as hard cap of 7% across all 140,000 visas that is 10,000 or so and it didn't matter about eb1,eb2, eb3. Any unused visas from ROW in EB1 would not go to india but rather flow down to eb2 row and then eb3 row. That s unused would go vertical instead of horizontal.
In uscis fiscal year 2004 eb3 went unavailable in summer of 2005. Statistics showed that India went well over their 7% limit.
In USCIS fiscal year 2005 we had severe retrogression for India. Visa bulletin states that spillover will be vertical instead of horizontal. Statistics showed that India only received 10,500 visas
Now, fiscal year 2006 . We have slow movement in visa dates; it appears that they are going vertical with spillover. However, in July 2007 they make it current for everyone and India goes over the 7% limit.
Fiscal year 2007 it appears from visa bulletin that they are going to go horizontal instead of vertical. No statistics yet of how much went to India.
Therefore; department of state has changed policy, interpretation without law change. Talk to many lawyers and they will tell you that spillover is supposed to happen vertical instead of horizontal. indian nationals have been benefitted greatly by department of state changing it on their whim. You don't see many people from ROW on these boards bellyaching about this; or contacting senators, or threatening lawsuits do you?
This is something to think about? As people keep highlighting this issue and if they continually point it out to lawmakers and someone from ROW gets the birght idea to challenge department of state then it will make it worse for India. I don't foresee any change whatsoever in country quota limits; mainly because it is fundamental to immigration and fundamental things don't change very easily.
In defense of the EB2I argument thought UN, I could argue that the Horizontal spillover was right all along and it was EB3ROW that benefited since 2005 at the expense of EB2I + C.
As you rightly point out, there is room for interpretation in the way the law is written, and that is why we keep having this discussion. I remember vehemently having this discussion with you on immigration.com. The bottom line is I am still waiting having been "current" twice since that time, I believe that there are many Eb3ROW folks with PDs later than mine that have sailed through ahead of me! The interpretation view of spillover over the last year is the only thing that gives me any hope near term.
In the mean time, those like me have dealt with a barrage of other processing changes that have also affected EB2I ie Labor Subs., Eb3-EB2 jumpers, the July VB fiasco impact on older 485s etc. Not sure about the exact extent of each, but nonetheless, you feel screwed by the system when your 485 is pending for near 4 yrs.
This is one harrowing experience everyone wants to forget once they get greened. Thanks for sticking around with your valuable insight.
cram
06-15 09:53 AM
My lawyer sent the applications on June 1st and we have the receipts already. They cashed the checks by June 6th.
Did you send it to TSC or NSC.
Did you send it to TSC or NSC.
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rpulipati
09-27 03:04 PM
Venkat,
I and my wife transfer notice by mail. I have no idea, why I received them.
I read on the forums where people successfully called USCIS and got their Receipt Number with their name and DOB. However, they mentioned USCIS that they were waiting for more than 90 days to get level 2 IO support.
Thanks,
Hi All,
Quick question...we applied for NSC on aug 2nd..did not hear anything yet. Just wondering did all of u , whose cases got transfered to other centers get Transfer notices or directly receipt notices.
I am gettign tensed as the days are passing by.
venkat
I and my wife transfer notice by mail. I have no idea, why I received them.
I read on the forums where people successfully called USCIS and got their Receipt Number with their name and DOB. However, they mentioned USCIS that they were waiting for more than 90 days to get level 2 IO support.
Thanks,
Hi All,
Quick question...we applied for NSC on aug 2nd..did not hear anything yet. Just wondering did all of u , whose cases got transfered to other centers get Transfer notices or directly receipt notices.
I am gettign tensed as the days are passing by.
venkat
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gjoe
10-08 05:51 PM
If you really wanted to correct the so called misinformation I am spreading why do you have to start with things like "IV member know that you don't want to volunteer"? Is this is supposed to intimidate me or you just trying to spin information for your own cause?
Please understand that I am not against what IV stands for and what the members do. What I don't agree with is the way some immature Senior members do by loosing their cool. Cutting off peoples thoughts and ideas in not right. I would go futher to make a bold suggestion, " IV has to screen these so called senior members for maturity before making them members who carry the message"
I am not blaming anyone here, but moderation in their temper is expected off the senior members in any place not just in this forum. Intimedation and threats have always resulted in the downfall of the whole group, history would teach us that.
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Your post is highly misinformed and members aren't surprised by your lack of correct information, you mention in your profile that you don't want to volunteer and you didn't attend the DC rally. No wonder you are disconnected from reality about how far IV has come. It is a fact and all members know this, IV scooped the July visa reversal.
Please stop living in the blunderland and face the reality. IV was a big reason, we never clam to be the sole reason. We work with other stakeholders. Without a grassroot effort none of the other constituents would have been effective. You mention about the AILA lawsuit "threat," well, why didn't they actually file the lawsuit? We agree that the lawmaker's letter was instrumental in the July visa fiasco reversal. We had an unprecedented San Jose rally by legal immigrants. You need to get serious and need to contact your state chapter leader to get some more information about IV.
Stop misinforming others! It is about time IVers realized their infuence and exploit their full potential. Don't let such misinformed comments affect your efforts.
Please understand that I am not against what IV stands for and what the members do. What I don't agree with is the way some immature Senior members do by loosing their cool. Cutting off peoples thoughts and ideas in not right. I would go futher to make a bold suggestion, " IV has to screen these so called senior members for maturity before making them members who carry the message"
I am not blaming anyone here, but moderation in their temper is expected off the senior members in any place not just in this forum. Intimedation and threats have always resulted in the downfall of the whole group, history would teach us that.
---
Your post is highly misinformed and members aren't surprised by your lack of correct information, you mention in your profile that you don't want to volunteer and you didn't attend the DC rally. No wonder you are disconnected from reality about how far IV has come. It is a fact and all members know this, IV scooped the July visa reversal.
Please stop living in the blunderland and face the reality. IV was a big reason, we never clam to be the sole reason. We work with other stakeholders. Without a grassroot effort none of the other constituents would have been effective. You mention about the AILA lawsuit "threat," well, why didn't they actually file the lawsuit? We agree that the lawmaker's letter was instrumental in the July visa fiasco reversal. We had an unprecedented San Jose rally by legal immigrants. You need to get serious and need to contact your state chapter leader to get some more information about IV.
Stop misinforming others! It is about time IVers realized their infuence and exploit their full potential. Don't let such misinformed comments affect your efforts.
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needhelp!
11-21 11:32 AM
May God give you and your family the strength to go through this.
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cal97
11-07 05:54 PM
I took an infopass appointment today. The IO sent an e-mail to NSC after taking details like DOB, address etc. for me and my wife.
btw, FP for us has been scheduled. Looks like they have some kind of a queue for that but a notice has not been sent out.
So that was it. Am going to wait it out patiently.
I had taken an infopass appointment after filing an SR. All the IO said was I should call NSC. I don't think the IO's at the local USCIS office can issue FP notices.
Shall try again sometime this week or next and update the same here. I am a NSC->CSC->NSC transferee.
btw, FP for us has been scheduled. Looks like they have some kind of a queue for that but a notice has not been sent out.
So that was it. Am going to wait it out patiently.
I had taken an infopass appointment after filing an SR. All the IO said was I should call NSC. I don't think the IO's at the local USCIS office can issue FP notices.
Shall try again sometime this week or next and update the same here. I am a NSC->CSC->NSC transferee.
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akhilmahajan
03-04 10:18 AM
Thanks a lot everyone. I am happy the thread is back and alive.
Grand Total - $2232
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE. GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
Grand Total - $2232
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE. GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
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h1bmajdoor
07-08 05:07 PM
In Fox News this afternoon, the senator has explicitly said that the Chicago lady does not have any "constituional rights" since she is not American citizen. Go figure what they think about us.
she can say whatever. the courts have to agree.
if she says that constitutional protections don't apply to non-citizens, they are essentially reinstating slavery.
not that the constitution was against slavery.
she can say whatever. the courts have to agree.
if she says that constitutional protections don't apply to non-citizens, they are essentially reinstating slavery.
not that the constitution was against slavery.
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imm_pro
02-22 05:29 PM
Transaction ID: 0HV49363NW0956225
Description Unit price Qty Amount
Donation to Support Immigration Voice (User: imm_pro)
$500.00 USD 1 $500.00 USD
Subtotal $500.00 USD
Total $500.00 USD
Payment $500.00 USD
Payment sent to donations@immigrationvoice.org
I will not be able to attend the event due to personal reasons;so am trying to compensate for it by atleast contributing sincerely to the event.Hope this will inspire some of the members who are still trying to decide wether to contribute/volunteer or not.
Description Unit price Qty Amount
Donation to Support Immigration Voice (User: imm_pro)
$500.00 USD 1 $500.00 USD
Subtotal $500.00 USD
Total $500.00 USD
Payment $500.00 USD
Payment sent to donations@immigrationvoice.org
I will not be able to attend the event due to personal reasons;so am trying to compensate for it by atleast contributing sincerely to the event.Hope this will inspire some of the members who are still trying to decide wether to contribute/volunteer or not.
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desi3933
07-10 12:31 PM
@desi3933:
What's a "bona fide" job? Where did you see that a job needs to be"bona fide?"
Also, if you're self-employed, why can't you show that's a "legitimate" business? Who's asking for a business plan--and why should that be difficult to make if you're self-employed? Please, let's not *assume* things. We should base our opinions only on facts and evidence.
Are you suggesting that AC-21 job does not need to be bonafide?
First you claimed that AC-21 job does not need to be permanent. Then you claimed that AC-21 job does not be same/similar to labor/I-140. Now you have changed stand on these two after seeing one RFE example.
Now, you are saying new AC-21 job does not be bonafide. Do you even read what are you saying?
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What's a "bona fide" job? Where did you see that a job needs to be"bona fide?"
Also, if you're self-employed, why can't you show that's a "legitimate" business? Who's asking for a business plan--and why should that be difficult to make if you're self-employed? Please, let's not *assume* things. We should base our opinions only on facts and evidence.
Are you suggesting that AC-21 job does not need to be bonafide?
First you claimed that AC-21 job does not need to be permanent. Then you claimed that AC-21 job does not be same/similar to labor/I-140. Now you have changed stand on these two after seeing one RFE example.
Now, you are saying new AC-21 job does not be bonafide. Do you even read what are you saying?
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abq_gc
08-23 11:58 AM
Hi,
I got my EAD today...Even i received my EAD also...Mine is sent to NSC on july 2nd...I received EAD's from Texas Center...I think my application was transferred to Texas...I have approved I-140 from Texas...Are receipt numbers for EAD, 485, AP are in serial? I haven't received receipts yet...I filled G-28...my attorney did not receive my receipts...I don't know what is going on...
Hi Sracharla,
Congrats on yur EAD.. Did u have a LUD on yur I-140 ???
Thanks,
I got my EAD today...Even i received my EAD also...Mine is sent to NSC on july 2nd...I received EAD's from Texas Center...I think my application was transferred to Texas...I have approved I-140 from Texas...Are receipt numbers for EAD, 485, AP are in serial? I haven't received receipts yet...I filled G-28...my attorney did not receive my receipts...I don't know what is going on...
Hi Sracharla,
Congrats on yur EAD.. Did u have a LUD on yur I-140 ???
Thanks,
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alex99
04-30 03:10 PM
That data include all EB categories and Even BEC cases.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13446357/
WASHINGTON - In a defeat for President Bush, Republican congressional leaders said Tuesday that broad immigration legislation is all but doomed for the year, a victim of election-year concerns in the House and conservatives' implacable opposition to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants.
"Our number one priority is to secure the border, and right now I haven't heard a lot of pressure to have a path to citizenship," said Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., announcing plans for an unusual series of hearings to begin in August on Senate-passed immigration legislation.
"I think it is easy to say the first priority of the House is to secure the borders," added Rep. Roy Blunt, the GOP whip.
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WASHINGTON - In a defeat for President Bush, Republican congressional leaders said Tuesday that broad immigration legislation is all but doomed for the year, a victim of election-year concerns in the House and conservatives' implacable opposition to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants.
"Our number one priority is to secure the border, and right now I haven't heard a lot of pressure to have a path to citizenship," said Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., announcing plans for an unusual series of hearings to begin in August on Senate-passed immigration legislation.
"I think it is easy to say the first priority of the House is to secure the borders," added Rep. Roy Blunt, the GOP whip.
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simple1
05-01 03:47 PM
You could be right.
However trying first, through normal clarification channel (if available) doesn�t hurt.
But my friend, CIS has a very very thick skin... So the only language they understand is suit.
However trying first, through normal clarification channel (if available) doesn�t hurt.
But my friend, CIS has a very very thick skin... So the only language they understand is suit.
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apt29
01-30 05:02 PM
Funny... Sathweb took his post back, which even he does not agree with anymore and you now agree with it..
Point is very simple: If a person has a valid job offer then by all means go ahead and apply for H1 from any status (be it H4, F1, B or Z...) but if you don't have a proper job offer then please don't apply for the H1 visa through a body shop as you are taking away a valuable visa #, which unfortunately are very limited.
QUOTE=sumanitha;314025]I Completely agree with your reply. First, when I read the comment of that guy, I couldnt accept at all.
You have given a nice and neat reply.[/QUOTE]
Pardon me, if this is not appropriate question. You mentioned that your wife went to School here. Is it Masters Degree? If yes, she can apply for H1 under the 20,000 quota, which is not lottery based(at least for few weeks).
Point is very simple: If a person has a valid job offer then by all means go ahead and apply for H1 from any status (be it H4, F1, B or Z...) but if you don't have a proper job offer then please don't apply for the H1 visa through a body shop as you are taking away a valuable visa #, which unfortunately are very limited.
QUOTE=sumanitha;314025]I Completely agree with your reply. First, when I read the comment of that guy, I couldnt accept at all.
You have given a nice and neat reply.[/QUOTE]
Pardon me, if this is not appropriate question. You mentioned that your wife went to School here. Is it Masters Degree? If yes, she can apply for H1 under the 20,000 quota, which is not lottery based(at least for few weeks).
GreenCardLegion
03-09 09:18 PM
And worst is the lottery...
And I know a guy (a restaurant waiter from Nepal) got his GC in frikkin 14 months. And this was 5 years ago when I had just applied and now even today mine is still pending and that Nepali waiter who could not speak 4 words in English is now a Citizen and whenever I go to this restaurant for a buffet he keeps laughing at me and he is still a waiter in the same restaurant. I know him for 6 years. I get enraged at this countrys immigration policy. And I have met about 5 cabbies (Somalia, Pakistan, Sudan) etc etc who came here by winning visa lottery. And they are all citizens or GC holders. This is a mockery. This country has finally started to SUCK big time.
And I know a guy (a restaurant waiter from Nepal) got his GC in frikkin 14 months. And this was 5 years ago when I had just applied and now even today mine is still pending and that Nepali waiter who could not speak 4 words in English is now a Citizen and whenever I go to this restaurant for a buffet he keeps laughing at me and he is still a waiter in the same restaurant. I know him for 6 years. I get enraged at this countrys immigration policy. And I have met about 5 cabbies (Somalia, Pakistan, Sudan) etc etc who came here by winning visa lottery. And they are all citizens or GC holders. This is a mockery. This country has finally started to SUCK big time.
deepak
09-10 08:12 PM
Hi,
There are several restrictions/constraints for many ppl for not being able to devote time/money for the general cause. Let's not fret about the reasons. While it would help for all ppl to join forces that should not distract the group that is doing something about the issues.
And ppl on the sidelines - pls don't be a passive professional critique. However valuable your comments and ideas are they are useless without acting upon it - they are just like seeds sown in a barren land. The good work of the forum will continue without your presence. With your involvement we all can reach the goal that much more faster.
My Labor certification is actually filed in the state of IL. But i am on an assignment in MD till Sep 2010 (after filing for relevant amendments).
It's ~5 hrs drive for me to Baltimore/Washington-DC. So, coming every week for a meeting is not practical. I am extremely eager to support OUR cause given the commuting constraints. I have already written to our congress man here to bring to his notice the struggles of wannabee immigrants.
So, where do i sign up?
Harikris, I hear you. People are in different situations. I was not mad about moving to this country and for a long time, I preferred travelling instead. Then I reached a point where I preferred to be with my family and thought it is best if we move here and we filed for our GC at the same time. If it does not work out, I am entirely content moving back. Heck, even if it does work out, I might move back.
I am not crazy enough for my GC to spend all my waking hours trolling forums and calling people names. It is just not worth it. I do donate, the same way that I donate to the local zoo and botanical garden. I give them money to run something so that I and others may benefit from it. The people who run it are passionate about it and do it for themselves and others.
If things work out, everyone will benefit, the people who worked, and those who didn't, the people who donated and those who didn't. When India fought for its freedom, people donated money and time. I am ready to bet that less than 1% joined in the strugle. There were people who worked for the british government and there were people who went on with their lives. Everyone got freedom, the people who worked got recognized and remembered. That is life.
The ones who are desperate need others to pitch in to create a critical mass in terms of both money and numbers. I think this realization needs to sink in and insulting people into getting donations out of them is probably not a strategy that will work very well.
These forums are an excellent rallying point and I think more people being helpful and polite will go a long way.
Of course, I say all this with my leathery skin waiting to be called a useless idiot who writes bullshit.
There are several restrictions/constraints for many ppl for not being able to devote time/money for the general cause. Let's not fret about the reasons. While it would help for all ppl to join forces that should not distract the group that is doing something about the issues.
And ppl on the sidelines - pls don't be a passive professional critique. However valuable your comments and ideas are they are useless without acting upon it - they are just like seeds sown in a barren land. The good work of the forum will continue without your presence. With your involvement we all can reach the goal that much more faster.
My Labor certification is actually filed in the state of IL. But i am on an assignment in MD till Sep 2010 (after filing for relevant amendments).
It's ~5 hrs drive for me to Baltimore/Washington-DC. So, coming every week for a meeting is not practical. I am extremely eager to support OUR cause given the commuting constraints. I have already written to our congress man here to bring to his notice the struggles of wannabee immigrants.
So, where do i sign up?
Harikris, I hear you. People are in different situations. I was not mad about moving to this country and for a long time, I preferred travelling instead. Then I reached a point where I preferred to be with my family and thought it is best if we move here and we filed for our GC at the same time. If it does not work out, I am entirely content moving back. Heck, even if it does work out, I might move back.
I am not crazy enough for my GC to spend all my waking hours trolling forums and calling people names. It is just not worth it. I do donate, the same way that I donate to the local zoo and botanical garden. I give them money to run something so that I and others may benefit from it. The people who run it are passionate about it and do it for themselves and others.
If things work out, everyone will benefit, the people who worked, and those who didn't, the people who donated and those who didn't. When India fought for its freedom, people donated money and time. I am ready to bet that less than 1% joined in the strugle. There were people who worked for the british government and there were people who went on with their lives. Everyone got freedom, the people who worked got recognized and remembered. That is life.
The ones who are desperate need others to pitch in to create a critical mass in terms of both money and numbers. I think this realization needs to sink in and insulting people into getting donations out of them is probably not a strategy that will work very well.
These forums are an excellent rallying point and I think more people being helpful and polite will go a long way.
Of course, I say all this with my leathery skin waiting to be called a useless idiot who writes bullshit.
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