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03-09 09:12 PM
Well said
Yes, and a lot of people know that there are highly skilled people who are depressed and that takes a toll on employee productivity.
After all, if 90% of your time is spent on thinking about BECs and visa bulletins, imagine if that time was spent on doing the job they've hired you for.
Some employers(like Microsoft) realize this and want to do something about it. Its not just about keeping the best and brightest here in USA. Its also about keeping the morale and productivity up.
As to how to deal with this...try this.
Call your local congressman's office(Find out info about that from House.gov, with your zipcode). Get an appointment with congressman. There is an Easter recess coming up when they would be back from DC.
Then talk to him about all issues you have. Take all the material you need from the "Volunteer" menu item of this website.
Doing something about the problem is the best therapy there is. I am not saying this because I want to coax you into meeting your congressman. No. That's not the objective. But I think action is the best remedy for this problem. And there is actionable stuff to do about this. If you are suffering from terminal cancer, then you really cant do anything about that. This is not such a problem. This is a problem for which the solution is out there.
Somehow, after landing in this country, people lose the appetite for risk and adventure. Before they are in here, they would move mountains to score an H1 or an F1. After coming here, they hunker down, heads-under-the-desk kind of approach. What I am talking about is nearly 200 people right now, who have read this post, but havent logged in. They wouldnt log in. They wouldnt give their real email address if they sign up. They would never contribute. WHY? Because they are afraid. That they will be deported. For no reason. Everything we do is legal, including raising funds and spending it on lobbying. But they are afraid. They are also afraid that by talking to congressmen, they will make them mad and the congressman will pick up the phone, call USCIS and then get their 140 cancelled. Yes. People create their own fastasies and become afraid of them..
Yesterday, nearly 2000 Irish illegals went to capitol hill and talked to various lawmakers to lobby for CIR and legalization. They were illegals. Yet, the somehow managed to walk into the building where laws of this country are made, talk to people who make the laws that they have broken, go thru Capitol Hill security check, and look into the eye of the lawmaker and talk to them.
However, our community, this is how they behave. Forget about talking to congressman, or contributing money. When they call the core group with a question, they block the caller id can call. Dont disclose their name too. Ask a questions and then quickely hang up. Some of them want to contribute with cash because they are not willing to believe us that we are doing everything legal here and its their right to lobbying and petition the Government for problems.
After paying taxes, after following all immigration laws, after getting all the education in the world to become "Highly skilled", the highly skilled cant bring themselves to stand-up with a straight spine, thump their desk and talk to their lawmaker.
So at the end of the day, if we are depressed that legals dont get attention, then you know where to look for blame : the highly skilled who are highly educated and too afraid because their education and skills make them think too much and analyze too much, and they are afraid all the time.
Yes, and a lot of people know that there are highly skilled people who are depressed and that takes a toll on employee productivity.
After all, if 90% of your time is spent on thinking about BECs and visa bulletins, imagine if that time was spent on doing the job they've hired you for.
Some employers(like Microsoft) realize this and want to do something about it. Its not just about keeping the best and brightest here in USA. Its also about keeping the morale and productivity up.
As to how to deal with this...try this.
Call your local congressman's office(Find out info about that from House.gov, with your zipcode). Get an appointment with congressman. There is an Easter recess coming up when they would be back from DC.
Then talk to him about all issues you have. Take all the material you need from the "Volunteer" menu item of this website.
Doing something about the problem is the best therapy there is. I am not saying this because I want to coax you into meeting your congressman. No. That's not the objective. But I think action is the best remedy for this problem. And there is actionable stuff to do about this. If you are suffering from terminal cancer, then you really cant do anything about that. This is not such a problem. This is a problem for which the solution is out there.
Somehow, after landing in this country, people lose the appetite for risk and adventure. Before they are in here, they would move mountains to score an H1 or an F1. After coming here, they hunker down, heads-under-the-desk kind of approach. What I am talking about is nearly 200 people right now, who have read this post, but havent logged in. They wouldnt log in. They wouldnt give their real email address if they sign up. They would never contribute. WHY? Because they are afraid. That they will be deported. For no reason. Everything we do is legal, including raising funds and spending it on lobbying. But they are afraid. They are also afraid that by talking to congressmen, they will make them mad and the congressman will pick up the phone, call USCIS and then get their 140 cancelled. Yes. People create their own fastasies and become afraid of them..
Yesterday, nearly 2000 Irish illegals went to capitol hill and talked to various lawmakers to lobby for CIR and legalization. They were illegals. Yet, the somehow managed to walk into the building where laws of this country are made, talk to people who make the laws that they have broken, go thru Capitol Hill security check, and look into the eye of the lawmaker and talk to them.
However, our community, this is how they behave. Forget about talking to congressman, or contributing money. When they call the core group with a question, they block the caller id can call. Dont disclose their name too. Ask a questions and then quickely hang up. Some of them want to contribute with cash because they are not willing to believe us that we are doing everything legal here and its their right to lobbying and petition the Government for problems.
After paying taxes, after following all immigration laws, after getting all the education in the world to become "Highly skilled", the highly skilled cant bring themselves to stand-up with a straight spine, thump their desk and talk to their lawmaker.
So at the end of the day, if we are depressed that legals dont get attention, then you know where to look for blame : the highly skilled who are highly educated and too afraid because their education and skills make them think too much and analyze too much, and they are afraid all the time.
chanduv23
02-17 10:38 AM
I try to get 2 days off from work but could not get it because of work related travel in same week. Donated 100 USD and will do more later.. GO IV GO.
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simple1
05-01 02:35 PM
This is my understanding. Please take time to read INA, I485 application and current VB.
1. The category of the derivative and quota of derivative is not related to I485.
All that matter at the time of derivative I485 application is the
a) primary's priority date is current
b) primary's I485/AOS application pending.
read the I485 application again Part2 option b. "My spouse or parent applied for adjustment of status or"
Gurus, Forum-Attorneys, IV-Core, feel free to correct me.
2. We are more concerned about the quota. where the derivative falls. I strongly believe they must be out of EB2 quota and placed under FB2A.
There may be a chance that Eb2 india will touch 2008 in a year. and F2b will be at 2006. How dependet can file 485 as if they counted against F2A their date is not current.
1. The category of the derivative and quota of derivative is not related to I485.
All that matter at the time of derivative I485 application is the
a) primary's priority date is current
b) primary's I485/AOS application pending.
read the I485 application again Part2 option b. "My spouse or parent applied for adjustment of status or"
Gurus, Forum-Attorneys, IV-Core, feel free to correct me.
2. We are more concerned about the quota. where the derivative falls. I strongly believe they must be out of EB2 quota and placed under FB2A.
There may be a chance that Eb2 india will touch 2008 in a year. and F2b will be at 2006. How dependet can file 485 as if they counted against F2A their date is not current.
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08-04 02:07 PM
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07-08 03:34 PM
I thought we have made immense progress with regard to our moral standards so that one does not have to necessarily make significant personal sacrifices to upholds ones way of life and independence. That is why I believe this is be kind of a Civil rights/Equal Employment kind of case.
It could be argued that the supreme court has given the government authority to discriminate based on country of origin for immigration purposes.
Supreme Court does not give the Government the authority - Supreme Court does not make laws - the legislature (Congress) does - the judiciary can review the laws and decide that it violates the fundamental rights enshrined in the Constitution for Citizens or go against the basic fabric of the Constitution
That could easily be justified for new people coming into the country. Albiet it is slightly different from the case of most of us, those who are already in the process at some stage. In our case, DOS/DOL/USCIS acknowledge that we should be granted permanent residence (based on Labor) and even on such basis, is willing to extend our visas/work status indefinitely. However, we are being limited to not change employer (in case 485 is not applied) and to not change the field of work (in case 485 is applied). I think this can be argued as a violation of Equal Employment Oppurtunity by the government by a competent lawyer. Employer cannot be forced to process any immigration related paperwork against its wishes - otherwise it would infringe upon their fundamental rights as a registered business entity incorporated within US; nor can the employer be forced to take a risk that it would spend time and money hiring and training someone on EAD only to risk losing that person in a year if the 485 gets denied and so on.Even if the court does not do anything, it will go a long way in people and common people realising these issues.
I was surprised to find that even my cousin (who has been here since 1980) did not realise that the situation is so bad until we had a discussion about my status last christmas. Most just assume that a small minority of people with wierd/complicated cases are held up for longer then 2-3-4 years.
I am bringing these out not because I am opposed to equal treatment of folks on H1/ EAD etc - but because there are legitimate arguments both ways and unless we can prove unequivocally that there is gross miscarriage of justice in denying us this right and on the other hand - there is no disadvantage caused to anybody else by granting us this right - this idea is unlikely to see the light of the day
while i am happy to be proven wrong - i do not see anyone in this forum having a stomach for a protracted legal battle starting with lower courts and going all the way to Supreme Court - going back to my previous point - we do not see this as a "larger than me" cause
It could be argued that the supreme court has given the government authority to discriminate based on country of origin for immigration purposes.
Supreme Court does not give the Government the authority - Supreme Court does not make laws - the legislature (Congress) does - the judiciary can review the laws and decide that it violates the fundamental rights enshrined in the Constitution for Citizens or go against the basic fabric of the Constitution
That could easily be justified for new people coming into the country. Albiet it is slightly different from the case of most of us, those who are already in the process at some stage. In our case, DOS/DOL/USCIS acknowledge that we should be granted permanent residence (based on Labor) and even on such basis, is willing to extend our visas/work status indefinitely. However, we are being limited to not change employer (in case 485 is not applied) and to not change the field of work (in case 485 is applied). I think this can be argued as a violation of Equal Employment Oppurtunity by the government by a competent lawyer. Employer cannot be forced to process any immigration related paperwork against its wishes - otherwise it would infringe upon their fundamental rights as a registered business entity incorporated within US; nor can the employer be forced to take a risk that it would spend time and money hiring and training someone on EAD only to risk losing that person in a year if the 485 gets denied and so on.Even if the court does not do anything, it will go a long way in people and common people realising these issues.
I was surprised to find that even my cousin (who has been here since 1980) did not realise that the situation is so bad until we had a discussion about my status last christmas. Most just assume that a small minority of people with wierd/complicated cases are held up for longer then 2-3-4 years.
I am bringing these out not because I am opposed to equal treatment of folks on H1/ EAD etc - but because there are legitimate arguments both ways and unless we can prove unequivocally that there is gross miscarriage of justice in denying us this right and on the other hand - there is no disadvantage caused to anybody else by granting us this right - this idea is unlikely to see the light of the day
while i am happy to be proven wrong - i do not see anyone in this forum having a stomach for a protracted legal battle starting with lower courts and going all the way to Supreme Court - going back to my previous point - we do not see this as a "larger than me" cause
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08-26 10:16 PM
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I think I'm one of last person with the PD of 2005 to get approved.
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Good luck to those who are all waiting.
I think I'm one of last person with the PD of 2005 to get approved.
Service Center NSC.
Had two infopass appointments
Raised SR on 8/5/2010
Many calls to USCIS national customer service
Spoke once to second level IO
Also contacted local congress man and tow senators
My lawyer also contacted NSC regarding my case
Not sure what worked but finally got it. Thank god that this eternal wait is over.
Good luck to those who are all waiting.
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rnanchal
08-20 02:07 PM
Hello everyone
Wanted to let everyone know of my experience. I dont physically have my card, but there is an approval notice on the USCIS website.
Priority date October 20th 2005
I opened a service request on Monday August 16th. The person on the other end of the line was extremely polite and nice. I told him I had a speaking engagement in Canada (which is the truth) and that if my case was expedited, I would not have to apply for a visa. He given me a SR number and asked me to wait for 30 days which I was prepared to do. However my case status changed online on August 19th. I am unsure as to whether this was because of the service request or things would have taken this route anyway.
Best wishes to people who are waiting
Wanted to let everyone know of my experience. I dont physically have my card, but there is an approval notice on the USCIS website.
Priority date October 20th 2005
I opened a service request on Monday August 16th. The person on the other end of the line was extremely polite and nice. I told him I had a speaking engagement in Canada (which is the truth) and that if my case was expedited, I would not have to apply for a visa. He given me a SR number and asked me to wait for 30 days which I was prepared to do. However my case status changed online on August 19th. I am unsure as to whether this was because of the service request or things would have taken this route anyway.
Best wishes to people who are waiting
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GCStatus
09-17 02:23 PM
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I know the truth hurts but just because it is the truth does not mean it is rude or ignorant. Be realistic!
Cant talk logic to you buddy. No time right now. Have fun.
I know the truth hurts but just because it is the truth does not mean it is rude or ignorant. Be realistic!
Cant talk logic to you buddy. No time right now. Have fun.
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hiUS
09-08 02:09 PM
I actually spoke to Customer service and I got 2 very different responses.
1. Wait till you are an old man and then the cards may just come !! (Just Kidding ) she actually said wait for 90 days.
2. Another CSR told me that the TSC is having technical issues and they are not able to access the Biometric information on approved 485's in their systems. She advised me to download Form I-90 from the USCIS site and fill that in and send it in - if you have a minor on the petition then also send 2 passport size pictures of the minor - this will allow them to access the Biometric screen when they process the I-90. We will get Biometric notices and the Minor will get the card - the Grown ups will get the Cards after the Biometrics are uploaded.
I have not done this - eventhough I downloaded the I-90 forms - I took a INFOPASS appt and if they suggest that I should do a I-90 then I can get that done right on the spot - I am carrying the filled I-90 with me. Anyhow I-90 is usually submitted to correct errors on the card or to replace a card - however this woman sounded quite knowledgeable - but then there are issues realted to where the I-90 should be sent - this is specially complicated if your case has been transferred a few times like mine was.
Best is to check with the guys/gals at Infopass -meeting.
All this was from the rep at the TSC - so not sure if this is applicable to all centers.
AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I HEARD FROM THE TSC REP - PLEASE USE THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR OWN RISK - I AM NOT SENDING THE I-90 ON MY OWN.
I will post my Infoapss exp on the 9th of september.
As you said, please post your experience with Infopass tomorrow. It will be helpful.
1. Wait till you are an old man and then the cards may just come !! (Just Kidding ) she actually said wait for 90 days.
2. Another CSR told me that the TSC is having technical issues and they are not able to access the Biometric information on approved 485's in their systems. She advised me to download Form I-90 from the USCIS site and fill that in and send it in - if you have a minor on the petition then also send 2 passport size pictures of the minor - this will allow them to access the Biometric screen when they process the I-90. We will get Biometric notices and the Minor will get the card - the Grown ups will get the Cards after the Biometrics are uploaded.
I have not done this - eventhough I downloaded the I-90 forms - I took a INFOPASS appt and if they suggest that I should do a I-90 then I can get that done right on the spot - I am carrying the filled I-90 with me. Anyhow I-90 is usually submitted to correct errors on the card or to replace a card - however this woman sounded quite knowledgeable - but then there are issues realted to where the I-90 should be sent - this is specially complicated if your case has been transferred a few times like mine was.
Best is to check with the guys/gals at Infopass -meeting.
All this was from the rep at the TSC - so not sure if this is applicable to all centers.
AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I HEARD FROM THE TSC REP - PLEASE USE THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR OWN RISK - I AM NOT SENDING THE I-90 ON MY OWN.
I will post my Infoapss exp on the 9th of september.
As you said, please post your experience with Infopass tomorrow. It will be helpful.
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As proof of funds for landing, do we need to carry cashiers-checks etc or just a plain printout of bank-statement (INGDirect) is good enough?
Thanks.
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Thanks to all the members who are helping in any way possible to make this advocacy effort a success.
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09-27 04:39 PM
Sorry for my French guys...I generally dont like to use bad words, but this Charles Oppenheim boils my blood...
Look at all his previous statements...I dont know under what kind of influence he makes his statements...
He has BSed us in the past (look at his prior statement that he made in VEGAS) ....
Now he is BSing us again....
And we take his words seriously and start another set of arguments....
God bless every one; I need to calm down now. If possible please ignore this Oppehemi guy; he is just another joker.
CO's words have been mostly pessimistic..and upsetting so far...
Look at all his previous statements...I dont know under what kind of influence he makes his statements...
He has BSed us in the past (look at his prior statement that he made in VEGAS) ....
Now he is BSing us again....
And we take his words seriously and start another set of arguments....
God bless every one; I need to calm down now. If possible please ignore this Oppehemi guy; he is just another joker.
CO's words have been mostly pessimistic..and upsetting so far...
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In Fox News this afternoon, the senator has explicitly said that the Chicago lady does not have any "constituional rights" since she is not American citizen. Go figure what they think about us.
He is a congressman from Colorado .
He is a congressman from Colorado .
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03-07 10:23 AM
Good point, has anybody asked this to any lawyer ? Can we challenge this in court ? This is the definition of judiciary review...If we can proove the country cap to be unconstitutional..
Judicial Review is when the Supreme Court reviews an act of Congress to see if it is Constitutional.
Judicial Review is the power of the Supreme Court to declare a law unconstitutuion (violation against the laws of the Constitutuion).
Anything that has language to exempt from quota is bound to run into severe resistance. However one thing here in US is to challenge any ambiguous negativity in courts. Has there been any instance of challenging country quota in the court as discrimination as some people brought it up earlier. Remember laws can also be changed through courts also, not just legislation.
Even though we are far from Citizenship test, I know there are 3 branches of government,
Judicial, Legislative and Executive.
We do not seem to have much hope in the Legislative(Senate/House) and Executive(president) what are the chances of using that approach.
Judicial Review is when the Supreme Court reviews an act of Congress to see if it is Constitutional.
Judicial Review is the power of the Supreme Court to declare a law unconstitutuion (violation against the laws of the Constitutuion).
Anything that has language to exempt from quota is bound to run into severe resistance. However one thing here in US is to challenge any ambiguous negativity in courts. Has there been any instance of challenging country quota in the court as discrimination as some people brought it up earlier. Remember laws can also be changed through courts also, not just legislation.
Even though we are far from Citizenship test, I know there are 3 branches of government,
Judicial, Legislative and Executive.
We do not seem to have much hope in the Legislative(Senate/House) and Executive(president) what are the chances of using that approach.
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Please also add the wordings that we need only the pledge, people may go ahead and donate to the IV fund by mistake.
It should be along the lines..
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As for the target amount, i think the least minimum would be the $64K , which Aman spent already. Soon we will get a collective amount of what has been spent by all the core IV team members and then set the final target amount. What do you think ?
Done...
I am not sure what our target is but I have mentioned that I will monitor this thread for 2 days and depending on the number of people interested, we can set the limit and per person contribution. Lemme you if you have a better idea.
Saw the corrections, thanks !
Please also add the wordings that we need only the pledge, people may go ahead and donate to the IV fund by mistake.
It should be along the lines..
"Members please pledge the amount. Do NOT pay right now. Since these funds are to be directed towards reimbursing the administrative costs of the core team , we are not going to be adding it to the IV funds. We are working on a strategy to get this amount across to the IV core team members. We will instruct you on how to make the payment, once we formulate a strategy"
As for the target amount, i think the least minimum would be the $64K , which Aman spent already. Soon we will get a collective amount of what has been spent by all the core IV team members and then set the final target amount. What do you think ?
Done...
I am not sure what our target is but I have mentioned that I will monitor this thread for 2 days and depending on the number of people interested, we can set the limit and per person contribution. Lemme you if you have a better idea.
marty
05-30 10:17 AM
no photo is required. They might take a photo of you if they think its old. You can take fresh photos if you want but I don't think that you will need it.
Now the next thing. You will definitly be asked and might also be threatened by the US immigration officer when you tell them that you went to canada for landing and you have also applied for US immigration. You can be lucky and might not be asked this question but there is a great possibility that it will be raised. Although there is no law that says you cannot obtain PR for any other country as long as your application for US PR is pending, you will be harassed when you tell them that you are in US on AOS. Remember one thing: DO NOT TELL IO THAT YOU PLAN TO ABANDON CANADIAN PR ONCE YOU GET US PR AS YOU WILL BE COUNTER ASKED THAT YOU HAVE WASTED THE CANADIAN VISA NUMBER AND ALSO PLANNING TO WASTE THE VISA NUMBER AS ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL WOULD'VE GOT THAT. Just stay calm and let them say whatever they want to say.
What is your POE?
Now the next thing. You will definitly be asked and might also be threatened by the US immigration officer when you tell them that you went to canada for landing and you have also applied for US immigration. You can be lucky and might not be asked this question but there is a great possibility that it will be raised. Although there is no law that says you cannot obtain PR for any other country as long as your application for US PR is pending, you will be harassed when you tell them that you are in US on AOS. Remember one thing: DO NOT TELL IO THAT YOU PLAN TO ABANDON CANADIAN PR ONCE YOU GET US PR AS YOU WILL BE COUNTER ASKED THAT YOU HAVE WASTED THE CANADIAN VISA NUMBER AND ALSO PLANNING TO WASTE THE VISA NUMBER AS ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL WOULD'VE GOT THAT. Just stay calm and let them say whatever they want to say.
What is your POE?
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